Chris interviews Tom Coderre, SAMHSA Chief of Staff. Tom just got that gig, so we were grateful he could make the time for North Carolina. He came down from DC to speak at our 4th Capital Area Rally for Recovery, September 2015, and gave a tremendous talk on the recovery movement as a civil rights movement.Chris and Tom chat a little about Tom’s path from addiction to national recovery movement leader. Tom also shares a funny story about our own Betty Currier. “Who rounds down!?!” Betty was on the Faces and Voices of Recovery board of directors way back in the day and Tom had just been hired as the national field director. Per custom, Chris asks Tom what his super power would be if he could have one. His choice quickly prompted a discussion about self-care. Chris and Tom are cut from the same cloth.